Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 2:20 AM I will put something like this on the project guidelines instead of having it as a project. But I think some of the points should sound more optional. Some are difficult to determine, and I think is fine if someone want to post a project as an idea to see if someone else is interested on working on it or to receive some feedback before planning it so much. Maxime Fournes OP — 03/09/2024 10:46 AM The problem with the discord integrated guidelines is that I did not even know they existed until I started actively looking for them and I doubt many people pay attention to them. I like the visibility of a post at the top that says "README" better. But I am happy to hear you out if you think this is a bad idea. And I do agree that these guidelines should not be too stringent. All I am trying to do is emphasize that if people want help with their project, they will get it quicker if they follow the guidelines Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 4:57 PM They appear before writing a new post, you should have missed them dasSpieler — 03/09/2024 5:16 PM I think they only appear after you clicked on post Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 5:49 PM my bad, I always thought guidelines were the same as rules, but now that looked up their meaning, they are not strict Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 6:00 PM fuck, I would really like the post guidelines feature but it doesn't show the full guidelines 😩 Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 6:55 PM nvm it's fixed, what do you think about it now? dasSpieler — 03/09/2024 6:59 PM hm, I don't think having a pinned post is that bad and it's certainly more visible than then guidelines feature 😅 Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 7:03 PM I am prepared to die on this hill the guidelines appear only for the ones who want to post, that is so much better dasSpieler — 03/09/2024 7:04 PM i tested it and for me they don't appear at all if you don't click on the icon 😬 Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 7:04 PM wut if you click new post they dont appear? dasSpieler — 03/09/2024 7:05 PM nope Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 7:05 PM That is not what happens in my end What about everyone else? BéatriceMouret — 03/09/2024 7:07 PM I think the idea of project creation guidelines is gréât Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 7:08 PM Does the guidelines appear when you click on "New post"? dasSpieler — 03/09/2024 9:13 PM ooh they do appear on mobile but they don’t on desktop if that’s what you meant Pato Vercesi — 03/09/2024 9:18 PM they do appear on desktop for me dasSpieler — 03/09/2024 9:19 PM hm idk then Nathan Metzger ⏸ — 03/10/2024 4:33 AM I do see the guidlines when I click "New Post", and they appear again the next time even if I had dismissed them previously. Keeping the guidelines there should be fine. 🤔 Would open up some other opportunities for temporarily pinning focus projects or something. Maxime Fournes OP — 03/10/2024 4:55 PM I also see them on mobile, will check on desktop later Maxime Fournes OP — 03/11/2024 9:38 AM On desktop, the guidelines don't appear unless I click on the little book icon Pato Vercesi — 03/12/2024 5:25 PM submitting a bug report. need your client info https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052735334-How-do-I-find-my-client-info Maxime Fournes OP — 03/12/2024 5:27 PM stable 273850 (477ea08) Host 1.0.9035 x86 (44780) Windows 10 64-bit (10.0.19045) Pato Vercesi — 03/16/2024 8:09 AM "Thanks for reaching out to us! I'm so sorry to hear about the issue that you're having. I can definitely help to isolate what's happening for you! First, could you check and make sure you're on the latest operating system version, and that your drivers are up to date? After that, can you try restarting your device then re-install the app to see if this helps? Here's the step?: https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/209099387 Make sure you double-check those AppData folders shown in the article, otherwise it may cause some issues during the installation process. Hopefully that does the trick! If it doesn't, follow up through this email with a screenshot of the error message and a copy of the setup log and I'll look deeper into it." I mean, even if it works it seems to be a common problem so if you want we can leave it there Pato Vercesi — 03/25/2024 1:43 AM @Maxime Fournes are you good with merging ⁠unknown with this? Maxime Fournes OP — 03/25/2024 10:15 AM Sounds good! Pato Vercesi — 03/25/2024 5:29 PM So, would you change this project title and intro message to be something like "Projects: recommended general guidelines and ideas" or "Project creation and participation suggestions" or something alike? Depending on what you think would be more useful. And maybe add the last messages in⁠unknown? Maxime Fournes OP — 03/25/2024 6:36 PM Do we give up with the readme and pinning idea? That's the whole point of this thread, so if we do I suggest that we get rid of this post and move the conversation about guidelines to the other one instead Pato Vercesi — 03/25/2024 8:23 PM nono, the pinning and "README" is fine. I'm just saying we should add the things in that project. to have this as the project about projects Maxime Fournes OP — 03/26/2024 7:13 PM Should we though? Sorry, I misunderstood the initial suggestion. It is not clear to me that the advantage of merging them here (one less project) outweighs the cons (the purpose of this project becomes less clear, going from a mere placeholder for guidelines, to a placeholder plus an actual project) . However I hate decision paralysis, so just give me one argument and I'll do it 😉 Pato Vercesi — 03/26/2024 7:30 PM no, you're right. I think they are other pros (for example the other project intro sounds like an old version of this post and so it seems useless) but the cons you mention are also true, so let's leave it like this. stuffduff — 04/09/2024 7:28 PM Great intentions bordering on micromanagement Pato Vercesi — 04/09/2024 8:26 PM I would call them "Recommended" guidelines Maxime Fournes OP — 04/09/2024 8:45 PM I find this is very minimal management, I would like to see more adoption of these guidelines rather than less. This is fine for people to post a first draft of a project for minimal friction, this way we dont discourage initiative taking and ideas, but I would encourage to rewrite it more clearly once it becomes serious. but maybe my view is biased from the organisations I have worked for in the past Maybe we should use polls regularly in the announcement channel to help figure out things like this Pato Vercesi — 04/09/2024 8:59 PM I think stuff is fine as it is, but I personally find it discouraging to create a project when I have an idea and I have to think about all the tasks, skills AND skills for every singular task. I don't do the last thing, and I don't think is that useful. Pato Vercesi — 05/03/2024 9:48 PM I pinned the protest for all the new people that are entering. let me know if you think this is a wrong Sjoerd Nijsten — 05/04/2024 4:47 PM I think it is near perfect if you would know all your tasks yourself at the onset, but sometimes it makes more sense to define the tasks with the project team. So I would take guideline 1 as mandatory and the others as optional at the onset, but it would be good to work those out with the project team and for clarity, you could then also write these down, and follow the guidelines after all.